214 Responses

  1. Shruti at | | Reply

    Haha they’re so sad! Boo!
    Like, at least get your own pics ppl lol

  2. Divya at | | Reply

    OMGGGGGGGGGGGG!!! PnP you guys should sue these people!!! This is blasphemous!

  3. ARTI at | | Reply

    OMG! OMG!…I’m so disgusted with these Zing people….that is absolutely disgusting and uncreative….I mean to lift word per word from your posts and then use YOUR pictures…OMG!!!!

  4. crab at | | Reply

    Ugh! Plagiarism aside, the woman didn’t even do it right. She’s super annoying. Is this a popular channel?

  5. nicole at | | Reply

    thats disgusting!!!! they are soo bad but more importantly im sure u ladies put in time and effort into this blog and plagiarism is just wrong ! they need to be shut down id much rather read about it than hear their annoying voices anyway!

    Keep doing ure thing!

  6. monika at | | Reply

    This is horrible.

  7. pdaervo at | | Reply

    AWWWW man, they’re not even a website so we can flood them with threatening E-mails :( This is disgusting, you should sue them. I’m not even joking, due they have an E-mail we can right letters of complaints to? Or even an address? I would be happy to use postage to crack down on these guys. Boo, if I was done with undergrad and law school I would totally volunteer myself pro-bono, but alas, I am a mere sophmore in college :(

  8. Myna at | | Reply

    Its freaking HILARIOUS! The Zing people have to be desperate losers plagiarize like this! Word for word?

    I say you guys strike a deal with em. Let them use your blog and you can get a commission out of it.

    Still rolling with laughter listening to this one woman monotonously drone “There a look on Gul Panag we like… rather love”… LOL… where is the originality?

  9. paris at | | Reply

    omg! this is disgusting! what are their content/script writers doing??!!! they should be fired and u guys should definitely sue zee’s sorry asses!

  10. anoo at | | Reply

    oh plz….dnt even associate hhc with this loser channel….u can turn this into a paid memebership blog if funds needed….but do not partner this annoying zing thing….ugh!!!

  11. Flower Power at | | Reply

    what is Zing tv? never heard of them!

  12. SKK at | | Reply

    What do you expect from people who can’t even make out the difference between Kate Walsh and Kate Moss (check out their URL for the link to the Karisma story)

  13. nikki at | | Reply

    dude sue their butts i hope they read this post and run away…

  14. nikki at | | Reply

    OMG– Zing is Zee TV! Such a big channel is stealing ur stuff!

    1. Nick at | | Reply

      I didn’t realise it was Zee TV… maybe they need to hire better journos

  15. Bubbles at | | Reply

    What channel is this? I mean Zing…is it popular? I have never heard of it. Maybe they dared to copy stuff because they knew no one really watched the show? LOL. This sucks…I hope they read this blog post the next time they come here looking for new ‘scoops’. It would be funny! The most annoying this you can do to them is to just ignore this whole thing….but do leave this post here so that they can read the comments and realize what they have done.

  16. Nidhi at | | Reply

    OMG..really cheap and disgusting…can’t you guys take legal action or something against this?

  17. Sharin at | | Reply

    OH. MY. GOD. EVEN I AM FURIOUS ON BEHALF OF YOU GUYS.. LIKE YES.. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FUNNY IF I WASN’T SO MAD.. AND I CAN’T EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE HOW YOUUU FEEL! Wow. It’s so funny how they just totally used your ideas.. even your own pictures and just acted like it was theirs.. holy crap. I mean they didn’t even get their own inspiration from it like for example we look at what you write and we all write our own opinions on the outfit.. its so simple. and they couldn’t even do that!

  18. Bibbo at | | Reply

    oh wow.. i thought maybe that it was a first time thing.. but to keep stealing.! =( what assholes.
    honestly P&P you two should try and do something about that.. it’s disgusting how they’re using YOUR hard work and passing it off as their own, with such a smug face from the host. irk.

  19. S at | | Reply

    sue them!!

  20. rv1979 at | | Reply

    OMG…no words..ive got now words. it outrgeous and i think you should take legal action.

  21. Jazz at | | Reply

    And WHY shouldl you NOT sue them???

  22. Sweetz at | | Reply

    It’s so blatantly obvious they should be ashamed of themselves! You guys should sue them!

  23. Belle at | | Reply

    what can we do?? plz find out PnP!

  24. Stuti at | | Reply

    SUE those idiots. Like really. SO many posts plagiarised. And that woman has pathetic dressing sense.

  25. pia at | | Reply

    boo.. stealing stuff

  26. TinselGurus at | | Reply

    really babes, SUE THEM!!

  27. FARAH at | | Reply

    what the FU%$##$….ASS_H%$$#$%

  28. Uzair at | | Reply

    OMG! Sue them for every penny it takes!!! This is madness… HOW CAN THEY?!!! And that bloody woman is so annoying. She’s so “Arre, My fashion sense totally ROXXXX”!
    (Notice the plagarized Vogue May 2008 covers in the background…hahaha!)

  29. Aathira at | | Reply

    This is so sad… they have the whole channel crew and they can not come up with some lines to say!

  30. preeths at | | Reply

    omg this is unacceptable
    and downright disgusting
    can we do something about it?
    are you guys planning to do something about it?

  31. KS at | | Reply

    Dear P&P,
    I have been hooked to your site for some time..and few of my friends too cannot pass a day without browsing it(and yet blame me for passing the link ;))
    You guys do a lot of work and share your point of view with the readers. After watching this video i felt my stomach churn.These 24×7 ‘masala channels need to do some work on their own.If one is a regular watcher one can see how these channels flick ideas even criticism from various magazines and present them as their views. Be it art or science, i know plagiarism cannot be avoided but one should not shy away from taking a stand. Dont let it pass as ‘ hota hai chalta hai’ attitude. Take a stand please.

    I seriously think you guys should write to this so called wannabe channel and let them no you do not appreciate it and if not sue them.


  32. Roop Rai at | | Reply

    This is deplorable!!!!!!!! Absolutely disgusting!!!! I hope you guys can do something about it.

  33. lavanya at | | Reply

    Imitation is he best form of flattery!!!
    still cant help ROFLOL

  34. spongy at | | Reply

    wohhhh and the traitor is amongst us…!!!!!!!so practicaaly that bloody show is the video version of hhc…n hey the script writer of the show…u suck man..n u r a big time looser…{u no he or she can read us..}

  35. KK at | | Reply

    That is so messed up! You guys do all the work, the research .. they wouldn’t know one designer dress from another and are blantantly stealing your pictures and writeups!!! You guys are awesome!! All of you (who get this channel) should stop watching Zing!!

  36. Nidhi at | | Reply

    This is probably why I havent even heard of this channel let alone watched it.

  37. tan ta da! at | | Reply

    this is actually disgusting!!! u should definitely report it! and that host is SO annoying! her voice is unbearable! and she needs to look at herself before giving ‘fashion tips’ to others!

  38. Enne at | | Reply

    that’s totally shitty, i mean you do all the work, and they report it on tv with their annoying commentary?! WTF?!
    they need to know this is not cool and need to admit their mistake to their tacky audiences!

  39. HHC Fan at | | Reply

    YES PLEASE sue them or at least tell them to credit you guys! This is no joke. They are a TV Channel and you guys do all the work and dig up stuff and post your comments and then they make it sound like it’s theirs! That’s wrong!! People think they can lift off stuff from the web and noone would notice! At least give credit to where you picked it up from!

  40. Ritu at | | Reply

    That is just plain wrong! Using your words and your pictures is not journalism!

  41. Divya at | | Reply

    OMG again! I had no clue Zing was Zee TV! I’ve never heard of it before!?!

  42. SeXY Devil at | | Reply

    This totally sucks! Something needs to be done about this..

  43. Nida at | | Reply

    Absolutely horrible! I am livid for you guys. Like everyone said, can we do anything?? I would love to flood those thieves with e-mails or hopefully this post initselc will freak ’em out cause they’re obvs reading your material. Uggh, how annoying!

    1. Nida at | | Reply

      In itself*

  44. rêve at | | Reply

    make most of this opportunity and sue Zing for copyright issues ;))

    1. KK at | | Reply

      Yea I agree! Sue them and make some money (and gain some publicity) out of it! :D

  45. meme at | | Reply

    hey i’ve seen some of these episode! remembered your posts right away.
    it’s not even a job well done…hate the tabloid-esque language they use.they should atleast mention the site before practically quoting from it.

  46. sam at | | Reply

    WOW!!! this is unbelievable.. And everyone is right when they say that something should be done about it. I am thinking of posting a comment on their youtube videos and also maybe email them so that they know that we KNOW!!
    Oh but wait..they will be checking the blog anywayyyy :P…so i guess they will KNOW… This is simply WRONG

  47. Stuti at | | Reply

    I sent an email, but its VERY angry and threatening. But totally worth it. Ass**les.

    Approve this PnP, and sue those b****rds.

  48. Fashionmaniac at | | Reply

    It is indeed painful and shameful for media going to this extent to grab attention.
    I’d be fretting and fuming too.
    I will SUE ’em.

  49. Numi at | | Reply

    OMG …this is outrageous though not surprising, considering the television media is flooded with mediocre uncreative people. For them forming even a sentence is a challenge and translating seems to be their only hope.

  50. Neha at | | Reply

    what losers… they cudnt even clear off the watermarks from the pictures…
    r u guys taking some action or not… keep us updated

    if u need some references to lawyers …m sure u have urs…just in case…ull need – then send me a howler

  51. Roop Rai at | | Reply

    I’d suggest you somehow copy these videos before they take them off.

  52. SeXY DEVil at | | Reply

    Roop Rai has a good point. Keep a copy of the evidence :) I am typing out my email to them.

  53. nehavish at | | Reply

    eeeks!!! Have they responded yet?

  54. Enne at | | Reply

    Hey P&P, please demand a public television apology!!!
    that is the LEAST they can do!!
    Or at least have ZEE TV get you 2 to get you your own TV show on the network so they can have a real fashion buzz tv show going on!
    i’m so furious about this!
    love your blog and I hope this works out for you gals.

  55. simran at | | Reply

    PnP please make this post a sticky so that it shows up as the first post, so that everyone visting the site gets to know what Zing is doing !! just mailed them, i hope you take some action against them, at least get them send a notice,
    you guys are so talented you deserve your own show :)

  56. NJ at | | Reply

    So what you guys plan to do about this ?

  57. Priyanka (HHC) at | | Reply

    Thank you all for your support. Means sooo much to us.

    We’ve written to them and are waiting on some sort of a response. We’ll keep you all updated.

    And once again, thank you.

    1. Indian Girl at | | Reply

      I know how awful it feels to have your work lifted off and republished as their own. Its good that they went on to use your exact words. makes it easier to get them to apologize because the rules around these things are so fuzzy. If they don’t have a conscience its rare for them to apologize.
      I’ve had a popular Indian newspaper lift off pictures from my blog including my content but never received any apology or acknowledgment. They even went on to say that they didnot want to ” market” my blog . WTH right. They stole my info but stating the source as my blog would be marketting my blog !!! I had no patience to take it up with them.
      And today I found another blogger take five of my articles and republish them on hers. Sorry about the rant. I do hop you get an apology and those anchors stop over acting.

  58. i?makeup at | | Reply

    hey girls,

    I’ve sent them two utterly nasty emails. Hope all works out.

  59. vidhya at | | Reply

    What a freaking bunch of losers. I have sent them the nastiest email i could. Do not leave them without a proper public apology.

  60. pdaervo at | | Reply

    um, maybe she shouldn’t send them nasty E-mails, they could scream harrassment (it’s happened before)

    1. deewani at | | Reply

      no we should mail them, revolting against injustice is what should be done. that’s how india got independent, else 90% of us would have been dead like the red-indians.
      Gosh I am being too cynical… but whatever….u get my point

      1. pdaervo at | | Reply

        That’s not what I meant, did you not see my offer of service above?? No, I meant NON-VIOLENT E-mails (ha! get it?)- I just noticed that several people said that they sent nasty E-mails, but you have to be careful about the nasty-factor.
        And no, you’re not being cynnical, you’re being the opposite of cynical, I’M being cynical.

      2. pdaervo at | | Reply

        and besides, it not like the native americans didn’t revolt- they just lost (it had a lot to do with diseases and the such)

        1. deewani at | | Reply

          from what I gathered in my history class, the british made tribes fight against each other and that’s how they died. British tried to do the same in India too, thankfully our diff Raja’s didn’t revolt against each other. btw, m really sorry..I did not reading ur above post, yea u r right, we should not mail nasty ones, that never helps :).

          1. deewani at |

            opps i meant read* lol…reading…

          2. pdaervo at |

            ohhhhh you know, I don’t know much about Indian history and the native Americans certainly did fight amongst themselves, but it was mostly diseases
            small pox

  61. navs at | | Reply

    This is so insane..I sent them an email with this complaint. Hopefully if they get enuff feedback, they’d (pobably) stop..
    Good luck p&p.

  62. hina at | | Reply

    u guys are just weird!!! why get so angry over something so small!!! their just trying to create news and whatever u guys write on most cases what a clever person who knows fashion thinks!!! stop making a big deal out of nothing!! get over it, we all know whos doing the hard work!! dont worry, i just think you guys shud put the case forward (if u wanna) rather than getting people who visit ur site to, just unfair i think good luck anyways

    1. pdaervo at | | Reply

      it’s our own decision, I feel like (I’m sure we all feel like) we’re all a aprt of this site, P&P have never made us feel like we’re just the audience, we participate. That’s what I love about HCC.

    2. zini at | | Reply

      More voice count. This channel will care, only if they see that this website has a strong backing. And the level of copying is so lowly (includes the presentation, observation and wording from this website), that it is a insult to the audience who are being taken for a ride.

    3. sam at | | Reply

      Agreed..!! We can’t overlook the matter. P&P have worked really hard for the site. AND it is a big deal because even though we know who has really done the work, doesn’t mean that we ignore such acts!! That’s like inviting people to do whatever they want no matter how wrong they are.

  63. rêve at | | Reply

    I sent them an email too…hope it lights up their brain that

  64. padma at | | Reply

    Good God! how shameless, and this is not some random TV channel, this is Zee TV we are talking about. sue them i say, we will mass sign an online application or something. We will get behind you whenever you need us.

    This is shameless and disgusting.

    And even though this is not important here, the women who host this show are terrible, and what shrill and irritating voices, my God!

    You have newspapers and magazines who have put you in their columns, so you are pretty well known and you have proof, go for it. They owe it to you, they should give you credit and the monetary compensation for all the money they make from the ads and other TV time they sell for these shows.

    Not Kidding at all here, go for it!!!!!

  65. deewani at | | Reply

    p&p instead of mailing zing, we should mail zee directly, cos zing being a very small part of zee would not care much about reputation. response@zeenetwork.com is where we all should mail. We all can write about this is main subject of the mail, that way they dont consider our mail as junk. gosh I am so furious on them for doing this.

    1. Payal(HHC) at | | Reply

      We are waiting to hear back. Giving them some time. If they don’t we will be following up with a more strict response.

      1. deewani at | | Reply

        great, don’t ignore this! if mailing does not help.. u could inform diff TV channels in India..

  66. padma at | | Reply

    you got to be kidding me! these guys are shameless, there is a limit to doing unethical stuff, blurring the watermark/logos off of stolen pictures is just lowly.

    The more i see it the more furious i am getting.

    Do something PnP, dont let this slide at all.

  67. Ash at | | Reply

    omg! how utterly disgusting! SUE THEM!!!!

  68. Priyanka at | | Reply

    oh my god.
    oh wow.
    wayyy to be original. right?!
    not only do they steal your pics. THEY ACTUALLY USE THE SAME WORDS…wow.

  69. Saya at | | Reply

    Such disgusting piece of S**t these people are. Makes me wanna throw up.And those women on their show…hey bhagwan!

    Just shot them an email. Hope they get their a$$ sued. Good luck P&P, we are with you in this.

  70. Meghna at | | Reply


    Sorry to see this happen to you, hopefully this will yield some publicity for the website if not anything else.
    Frustrating to think how long it could take to put these people in their place.
    Zee has never been known for its creativity/ creative resources but someone sure knows where to get good content huh :)
    You have my support, and they my hate mail!!

  71. karishma at | | Reply

    thats pretty desperate of them….but there is one positive point of all this…i believe this site is soo great and popular thats people have to copy it and call it theirs

  72. s at | | Reply

    i didnt go thru the links, but ur copied in other places, i have seen the exact same opinion with exact same pictures, worded slightly different in mid-da.

  73. s at | | Reply

    just wanted to make it clear, u have been copied in other places as well.

  74. pri at | | Reply

    this is ridiculous. they cant even come up with original things to say about the stolen pics! then they go and butcher the designers’ names.

  75. ranju at | | Reply

    I just cant believe they have the guts to do this !!!!!!!!!!
    and in this age when it is so easy to detect Plagiarism !!!!!!!! they have to be stopped !!!!!!!!!!
    oky, me going to write them an email !!!!!!!!!!!!

  76. Anu at | | Reply

    This is atrocious. Come on! they have the whole office full of photographers and journalists. All they can do is browse and copy stuff off the internet. Sue them.

  77. _*Dia*_ at | | Reply

    hey P n P…….u should get paid by them or they should hire you guys as consultants. gosh..they cant even use their own pics….send them a proposal for a deal…milk this opportunity to ur advantage ;)

  78. zee at | | Reply

    PnP, I just sent out a protest email. The level of copying is outrageous !!! All my support to you .

    1. zini at | | Reply

      Oops…I just realized that my screen name matches this outrageous channel. In protest, I change my screen name from zee to zini.

      1. Priyanka (HHC) at | | Reply

        Lol. Thank you “Zini”.

        Much appreciate the support.

      2. padma at | | Reply

        :) thats sweet and funny! Zini!

  79. Shalini at | | Reply

    support you 100 percent! will mail them too..shameless corporation

  80. apsara77 at | | Reply

    just saw the videos..god, they have NO imagination what so ever..why don’t you guys make a video showing how they are clearly plagerizing and put it on youtube? i will be glad to circulate it…letters are good but i feel like they need something stronger…let me know what happens and how we can support you..

    1. Belle at | | Reply

      that’s an awesome idea!

      and use ZING as a tag…and whatever tags they use…so anyone looking them up will see the video too.

      1. simran at | | Reply

        ya this is an awesome idea, I hope someone here with the right skills makes a video like this and posts on youtube, then we can circulate the link across all forums we visit. Sure to make an impact !!

  81. EM. at | | Reply

    I sent them a protest email as well. This is so horrifying. I’ve gone through a similar experience where my tutor stole my extended essay and passed it off as her own after informing me that my essay was “crappy”. I can’t even imagine what you guys must be going through when a news channel does this.

    My two cents: Sue them for every penny’s worth. Carpe diem!

    1. EM. at | | Reply

      Oh.. one more thing.. has anyone thought to upload/save these videos elsewhere? Just putting that out there because they might delete the videos..

      1. Payal(HHC) at | | Reply

        We’ve saved the videos already! :P

  82. akaa at | | Reply

    Never heard of this Zing tv .. but saw the videos and it was pretty disgusting !!
    where is there creative team.. or their script writers that they cannot even change the lines??
    Just sent them a mail ( PROTEST MAIL) to do this to one os my fav. blogs!!

    And P&P,I and i believe everyone who’s a regular visitor is there to support you guys!!
    SUE THEM!!!

  83. Miss Amin at | | Reply

    Just sent them a protest email.. HHC is comfort food for my brain.. I’m disgusted!

    On a side note– High Heel should have its own TV show..

  84. nikki at | | Reply

    I emailed them in your support. Stupid Zee TV. They really are the stupidest channel. They dont pay attention to half of what they do!

    I want them to give you an on air apology and then remove the videos!

    If not, Im with everyone. Sue them.

  85. nikki at | | Reply

    You know what, if they dont respond, which there is a high chance they wont- you should call them.

  86. Lamb at | | Reply

    hahahahah these people suck! Their cheapness (and their gall combined) makes me wanna slap the shit across their faces.

    LMAO still at the way they said those lines! tsk tsk for turning well written paragraphs into cheap-sounding dialogues.
    HHC -1 ZINGwhatever – 0

  87. sam at | | Reply

    HAHAHAH… i can’t stop laughing!! “”cuz, we all know how the real Kaif dresses up””…They are literally using the exact words. Seriously, no shame at ALL…!!!

    1. Sana at | | Reply

      and repeating the word ‘kudos’
      can’t even improvise on the vocabulary.

    2. sam at | | Reply

      Yah…i just noticed that…:)hahah… I don’t think they can do anything but except copying other peoples stuff!!

  88. s at | | Reply

    You should do a post on what the anchor is wearing. For all you know, if they’re blindly lifting stuff off the site, that’ll also make an appearance on the video ;) :P

    1. nikki at | | Reply

      I agree post on what the host is wearing and maybe they will back down!

      But then again HHC has too much class :)

      1. annie at | | Reply

        I love HHC but not everyone who is posted has class!! if they did , this blog would be boring. On second thoughts, it is very boring!! I have stopped reading any comments or PnP’s commentary because they are so tame and no masala at all.

        1. nikki at | | Reply

          interesting you say that.

          so WHY are you here?

  89. Swishy Set at | | Reply

    Hahaha its so funny how they copy you word for word. I can’t wait till you pummel them and shut their channel!

  90. S at | | Reply

    just sent them an outraged email. hope it all works out :(

  91. Ish at | | Reply

    Despite being wrong and infuriating, I think it’s a teeny bit flattering that Zee TV lifts your material… but they need to stop doing it right away and give you guys credit FAST! With your URL at the bottom of the screen so everyone knows where to come. If they don’t make this right soon, you should def sue them. Unbelievable.

    Oh and I agree with Miss Amin… you girls should have your own TV show… like The Soup, but with fashion na?

  92. rak at | | Reply

    email sent.. you go girls , we’re all behind you!

  93. Tongue in Chic at | | Reply

    This site is fantastic, and I so appreciate the time and effort you spend on bringing us original, high-quality content that rivals with any fashion blog out there.

    I’m flooding them with outraged mails.
    Please, sue their granny panties off.


  94. Tongue in Chic at | | Reply


    Please take other stringent courses of action to publicize this as well.

    You guys have a fashion section on the MTV blogs, don’t you? Is there any way you could notify them of this plagiarism? Or maybe find a post on those archives Zing has lifted as well? Having another channel like MTV bolster you couldn’t hurt.

    Maybe you could also reach out to those kids on MTV shows like ‘Wassup’, and they could do a small feature on plagiarism and “certain channels” lifting content off you.

    I’m writing to them kids already. And to think I found them annoying! :)

  95. fashionguru at | | Reply


    First of all those photos don’t belong to you, just combining pictures and watermarking them won’t make them yours. you cannot do a thing!So stop crying hoarse and forget it!Anyway you aren’t doing any great piece of journalism to feel outraged, people visit you site for the pics not for the crap you write!Get real, there is a lot more to fashion than just crapping about people!

    1. purple at | | Reply

      Err…those photos are theirs. They buy them from a photographer, that’s why he is credited on most photographs.

    2. Tanika at | | Reply

      If this is such a “crappy” site then why are you here or even writing on this post? And aren’t you also “crapping” P n’ P? You contradict yourself my friend.

      I have submitted photos too this site and recieved credit for it and the site I found from was cited too. Obviously you don’t really pay attention to this site to know that they do give credit to people.

    3. deewani at | | Reply

      I don’t visit their site just for pictures…these pictures are available at many others sites… i visit to read their valuable …entertaining..informative opinion!

    4. Jazz at | | Reply

      Wow. You are just blabbering without getting ur facts straight. Go educate urself first on what can happen to whom for doing what. Im so totally frustrated now.

      lol Im getting really hyper.

      1. debs at | | Reply

        i am sick of these haters. they hate this site but dont hate it enough to stay away from it.

        pnp, ive just sent the channel a stern mail with big words. i hope they are flooded by now.

        1. Jazz at | | Reply

          Hey Im not a hater. My comment was a reply to “fashionguru”.

  96. dn at | | Reply

    P&P, sue away… we are all behind you!!!

    This is ridiculous. We can forgive one incident, but just making a show off your website, unbelievable.

  97. spongy at | | Reply

    hey it may sound funny..but jus a suggestion…u have a blog on mtv rite…u can mail them these thing wid proof…if they notice they wud love to kick zings ass on tickr as well as their new show stripped where they show who did wat kinda stuuf n band bajana thingy…don post it if i m soundin too stupid…lol..jus i no how bad it feels wen ppl take all yr credit…

  98. Kayshika at | | Reply

    I just wrote to them guys. You both have enough back up, they’ll be so sorry!!

  99. girlie girl at | | Reply

    Lawsuit! Lawsuit! Lawsuit

    Btw, Just sent them a nasty email as well…let’s see if they respond!

  100. Rhea at | | Reply

    How about paying you for the content and then use it.

  101. pdaervo at | | Reply

    Hmmmm…the fact that they started before you shouldn’t mean anything; you have everything documented on your sight and they’ve taken it all

  102. souris at | | Reply

    umm….get iver yourselves! heheheeh…everyone is getting workd up over nothin…chill dudes1!!

  103. nalini at | | Reply

    that is so messed up! they shouldn’t steal honest people’s work!

  104. rs at | | Reply

    Does anyone watch this channel btw?. I’ve never heard of this channel and not aware of being included in our channel lists(tata sky) .

  105. Hema at | | Reply

    Hi girls, I sent them an email . Hope you get an apology and proper credit soon . You are doing such a wonderful job on this blog , keep it up !

    P.S Do you think you girls could email Perez Hilton to ask for some advice /help on how to deal with this ?

  106. lazyU at | | Reply

    The best way to get them would be to publicize this through news papers and other magazines.. Every channel wants masala on their rivals so now they get a great story to totally bash up..

  107. rêve at | | Reply

    Hey PnP,
    How funny it would be if you have your next coupla posts with all the wrong information!!!! ;) designer names messed up, designer brands messed up, and write exactly opposite of what you think abt the fashion :D
    lets see what zing tv does then ;)))
    just a funny thought! :D

    1. KK at | | Reply

      HAHA.. that sounds awesome. Put all the wrong information and see if they are smart enough to correct it themselves. Let’s see them making a fool of themselves for real! :D

      1. rêve at | | Reply

        Thanks KK :)
        and if they still repeat exact same things as PnP ( wrong info) this case wud be even more solid ;)

  108. Mads at | | Reply

    PnP, I totally understand your ire. I saw the videos and was like OMFG! That’s downright nasty, whatever happened to copyright infringement? Aren’t blogs protected by some kind of law to protect against plagiarism and piracy?? Sue them I say! I’m going to send them a real nasty email now, don’t settle for an apology (if they ever admit what they’ve done is wrong), you deserve more than that!

  109. Neetal Mistry at | | Reply

    SUE THEM. This is an utter disgust. I really think you guys should take a stand.

  110. Indian Girl at | | Reply

    LOL, The host does crack me up. Dress ill fittinig tha for shoore… LOL !

    1. preeti at | | Reply

      lol …and her gestures …damn atleast they could have hired a better gal …

      P&P ….sue thm …

  111. emem at | | Reply

    write a letter to the zee CEO.. dont email customer service or the program/producers.. call the CEO office.

    other tip – have some newspaper or other network channel or news channel or miss malini or someone publish how the network is directly plagiarising from you.. there needs to be some print / television media reporting on this..

  112. Chaotic Planner at | | Reply

    Who are these people kidding? Imitation is the best form of flattery but this takes things to a completely different level!!!! Shame shame Zee network!

  113. Roni at | | Reply

    What happended to intellectual property rights?????

  114. Shilpi at | | Reply

    Omg this is absolutely disgusting. It’s really sad when people whose work actually thrives on creativity are so unoriginal. I can’t believe they ripped off every single bit of your critiques. How long has this been going on and how did you guys find out? Because it doesn’t seem like a popular channel at all.

    P.S.- Those hosts need to go take a second look at their own wardrobe before they decide to go on national TV and give plagiarized feedback on what eminent personalities are wearing.
    Go hire a new stylist darlings!!

  115. shireen at | | Reply

    Its amazing! How they’ve stolen every damn thing. Maybe you guys should take a vacation for a couple of days and then watch what they do! They’ll probably have to shut down their channel coz of lack of info!
    But if you guys have a copyright on this blog which I’m sure you do then you must go ahead and sue them.

  116. shireen at | | Reply

    And actually there is nothing worse than bad publicity! So you guys just call NDTV or someone and tell them this thing. It’ll be all over the news!

    1. sarah at | | Reply

      I agree with the idea, you guys need to do something. This is serious plagiarism, can’t you sue them, this can’t be legally right?? I am amazed at how blatantly they are copying you guys, thodi bhi sharam nahin hai!

  117. S at | | Reply

    WTH that show exists just coz ur blog exists……I have to wonder if you two go on a vacation, wt will they do? I really feel sorry for you, like if they had plagiarize cudn’t they find a better anchor….if I were you I’d protest that too!

  118. hk at | | Reply

    this is crazy! since they are sooooo good at keeping up with all ur posts and literally copying everything.. i wonder if they would create a segment abt how someone is stealing your content too!? :P have you guys heard back from these ppl?

  119. G at | | Reply

    P&P u guys are in for some serious money if you can hire a top notch lawyer and sue them

  120. sarah at | | Reply

    u mentioned u had contacted the zing tv personnel about this.. what’s the status on that? please do keep us updated..
    needless to say, i’m left speechless by such blatant plagiarism on a national level.. and the hostesses do NOT make it any better.. doing a WTHeyy on their dressing sense would definitely be a wake up call for them too.

  121. FARAH at | | Reply

    P&P, what if you dont put up any posts for say 15 days…then what will happen to these idiots???

  122. khnyc at | | Reply

    Hey PnP…please let us know a email where we can write and complain about this…this is downright disgusting!!!
    Zing Tv…get your own journos or shut down the this show…
    Its downright blasphemy…

  123. chiku at | | Reply

    omg…..loosers…..dont they have something original…..
    p&p count anodr email frm me ….
    seriously…i hope no 1 watches it!!!no trps

  124. tresliso at | | Reply

    I emailed the loosers. Gwad. What is the TV industry coming to?

  125. fashionguru at | | Reply

    If P & P have a strong case they won’t ask readers to fight their battle, writing a letter on their behalf, they are afraid to sue as they themselves will get into trouble, for its NO BUSINESS of their’s to comment on the way people dress, P&P could get sued in turn, and mighty information this site has, “her saree is tacky, her dress is long” from fashion commentators who don’t even dare to show their face!And what about your own originality P&P? What is your contribution to fashion?Where do you discuss fashion, or do you at all know anything about dress construction etc?Which celebrity cares about your opinion?Its not that Shriya will be crying buckets because you guys called her dress sense tacky, NO BODY WHO MATTERS CARES FOR YOUR DAMN OPINION!

    Instead of mocking other people with some liberal use of adjectives show your dress sense and tell people THIS IS HOW TO DRESS if you can, till then do your silly blogging and there is absolutely nothing to plagarise from your site, you have a very weak case and you would be sued in turn and have to churn out millions!

    1. akaa at | | Reply

      What exactly is your problem dude???

    2. pdaervo at | | Reply

      Right to free speech my friend, but plagarism is illegal ;)

      1. pdaervo at | | Reply

        er…free press too

      2. Sugar at | | Reply

        Ironically, in India is freedom of speech and press is mostly dictated by political parties. Plagiarism is rooted everywhere. Sadly, unlike US, it’s pretty difficult to sue based on plagiarism alone. This is solely my opinion based on the time I’ve stayed home in India.Only mass intervention of some kind .. people who read HHC regularly can do something about it along with P&P. Pretty soon those car wrecks aka Zing will get unpopular and shutdown their show..

        1. pdaervo at | | Reply

          GRRR, Sugar, I totally know what you mean
          it’s the reason why I will never voluntarily move to India

          1. preeths at |


            Please stay away then :))

    3. souris at | | Reply

      yep….makes sense….pnp get over yourselves! seriously!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeez!!

    4. Sin at | | Reply

      Ok, so called “fashionguru”… If you dont care about this blog, stop flooding this section with your nasty comments. P&P are really nice to approve your comments but you are just making all of us cringe with your nasty comments and rude behavior. Have you ever heard of “Freedom of speech” (which P&P believes in and letting you post your comments), so they are giving opinions about the fashion of celebrities in this blog. (Where I and many others who view this website actually respect their opinions and are really glad its not another gossip website). Why do you even care about how P&P dress or look, they seem to be more intelligent than most of the fashion journalists and I learned thousands of tips on how to dress by becoming an addict to this website. Nobody can sue P&P because they are writing their own articles and paying for the photos of celebs. Well, you are going to go on and on with some other silly comment… but all I think is, you are actually the writer/director of that Zing show and pretty pissed off that the truth is out! If you dont like this blog, go do your own thing, me and probably 150 others actually love this blog and respect P&P’s opinions! Enuf said!

    5. Elysia at | | Reply

      I am guessing you work for “Zing”….

    6. Tongue in Chic at | | Reply


      I really hope Zing is paying you to make these comments. Because the alternative – you reasoning this rubbish yourself and actually spouting it out for public consumption- would make you an epic tool.

      1. nikki at | | Reply

        I think Fashionguru works for Zing too…

        Freedom of speech is what its called. And look at it this way, if they were so wrong about fashion or if so many people really disagreed, do you really think they would have this much of a fan base?

        Obviously, people read because they want to see, and give, and read fashion opinions, otherwise this blog wouldnt be so successful.

        And I really think you shouldnt be called fashionguru. Obviously, you have no taste for writing such outrageous comments. But hey, freedom of speech isnt stopping you either.

    7. Sindhu at | | Reply

      U have the f**k b**l to tell PnP that they are need to tell people how to dress?…. U seem a big illiterate to me… I for one know how much they have contributed in correcting an ugly duckling into a swan that I am only through this website… I am sure that nonsense copy show of urz has the lowest TRP’s in ur channel, U cant seem to do anything, hence u are venting frustration on the originals? huh!!… Go get a life honey… get out of scoops, the sooner, the better…

  126. OrangeJammies at | | Reply

    Email going out to them right NOW. Sue their sorry asses and get yourselves some well-earned designer baubles.

  127. Shivani at | | Reply

    The sheer brazenness of the whole thingy amazes me. Blurring watermarks, hosts parroting out your whole jazz in Hindi (ahh! the language is different after all!). I can imagine what the scriptwriter’s average day looks like:
    –> Come to office
    –> Log on to HHC & select a post
    –> Download pics of said post & hand them over to the inhouse graphic designer to photoshop the watermarks out (of which he does a sucky job!)
    –> Ctrl +C the text of the post & feed it into Google transliteration tool to get it in Hindi
    –> Sit the idiotic showhost down & ask her to memorise the script
    –> Lights, Camera, Action … viola! we have a segment ready.

    Please, please use your contacts to get their asses whipped, sue them whatever. For what it’s worth, the channel should be shamed into shutting shop for this behaviour.

    1. Sugar at | | Reply

      LOL! Tthey might not even know how to photoshop dude..

  128. JB at | | Reply

    ahh this is so low!! how could they be so ridiculous? I am not sure about the legal rights for media in India, but you ought to take some action. I come to this site for it’s authenticity and would hate for it to lose that over something so wrong. GL!

  129. Aicha at | | Reply

    its sOOO hOrrible, just SUE them !!!!

  130. Sindhu at | | Reply

    fake is soooo uncool… Those buggers, word to word ditto!! what happened to something called originality? Trash them…

  131. s at | | Reply

    guys, comment on youtube, so if any one at all see theses vidoes, they will atleast know the origins. may be dont know what if we complain 2 utube abt copyright violation…

  132. MANGOgrl at | | Reply


    Hey Zing is the new name for Zee Music and Music Asiais an India-based satellite music television channel owned by Zee Entertainment Enterprises, which carries broadcasts in Hindi and other regional languages of India. As well as broadcasting in South Asia, it also reaches audiences in Europe. It is promoted by the Essel Group. Zing was first launched in 1997 as Music Asia, relaunched as Zee Muzic in 2000, revamped in 2005 and finally repackaged as Zing in April 2009.

    Kindly visit the details in wikipedia, you might will know who are the real culprits

  133. R at | | Reply

    mailed them. also mailed a friend at zee. i hope you get to hear from them soon. this is disgusting. the least they could do is credit you and this site with it.
    if i can get a response – unofficially even – i’ll keep you girls posted.

  134. anonymous at | | Reply

    i was channel surfin n saw the velvet hook(ed) episode lolz they ur exact same language figured it they were copyin u for sure lolz dint know they were stealin

  135. HHC Fan at | | Reply

    Fashionguru is a bit too pissed off with this whole thing! Gussa kam karo…:P the readers of this site value PnP’s comments pretty highly. We look forward to what they have to say about things. So don’t you trash the readers! And even if PnP can’t do anything according to you…at least everybody knows where ZING gets it’s fashion scoops from! :D

  136. HHC Fan at | | Reply

    I just checked out some more videos…it’s hilarious the way they copy comments…word to word…PnP don’t give up…they HAVE to credit you at the very least!

  137. Darky at | | Reply

    I’m a regular here but I haven’t posted before :P This is my first time posting and wow just wow. Thew newest video posted of Genelia one..the host was SO annoying. I really wanted to slap her, doubly enticing because of the blatant plagiarism. I would say that you guys should sue them big-time. You guys work so hard on this site, it is not fair for some retarded bimbos to get the credit for all your hard work! Hope it all get settled in your favor soon :) Good Luck!

  138. fashionguru at | | Reply

    The very fact that you guys jumped to the conclusion that I work for zing measures your IQ!Unfortunately you are wrong!Freedom of press in one thing and mocking people in another.Instead of writing to them “begging” to stop copying content why cannot P&P sue, say if Vogue feels its plagarised the company goes ahead and sues, doesn’t cry to its readers asking them for help! Grow up P&P, its not that you invented a cancer vaccine and someone stole it, yours is a blog that thrives on taking a dig on a personr’s fashion sense, a kind of yellow journalism, there is absolutely no creativity in your blog and neither to do contribute anything worthwhile!And celebrities care a damn about what you feel !

    1. Tongue in Chic at | | Reply


      In case you haven’t noticed, what with all the time you spend solving whats-the-next-number-in-the-sequence mensa puzzles, Vogue has been an established widespread publication for over a century. They have the connections and resources to pursue action expediently.

      Because HHC provides excellent, entertaining fashion commentary, it is easy to forget that HHC is two girls running a site, who don’t [i]necessarily[/i] have a legal wing or a publicity wing to push buttons for them.

      They reached out to their readers for a little help with bringing attention to an issue of brazen plagiarism. Incidentally, I see no evidence of them crying or begging (or anything to that effect_, as you so erroneously and misleadingly put it.

      I am amazed this needs to be spelled out for you.


    2. preeths at | | Reply

      Just a though fashion guru and others:

      Since Zing is plagiarising from this site, doesnt that mean that they are mocking people as well? Wouldnt they be held more accountable as a channel over a site like HHC?

      And talking about freedom of press, its being taking pretty liberally everywhere. If news channels headline katrina-Ranbir’s hug or priyankas guiness world entry or Taylor swift @VMA over and over and over again, hour after hour, that shows pretty much the lameness of the “freedom of speech/ press”, which i think atleast in todays times, shouldnt be considered to be some divine blessing that is given to us to set rignt the injustices of the world

    3. ko at | | Reply

      why don’t you get off this blog then…..ufff

    4. HHC Fan at | | Reply

      Fashion critics are not yellow journalists for your information…and PnP don’t do this for the celebs…they do it for it’s readers…and of course it is so worthless that other people copy it!

      and are you saying that if a student copies a bad essay from someone else it’s not plagiarism? are you saying that if a tabloid publishes an article and someone else copies it and claims it’s their article/opinion it’s not worth complaining? a copy is a copy is a copy. period. and PnP have every right to complain and show that they are being copied.

    5. pdaervo at | | Reply

      I’m glad to know that celebrities care a damn about what we feel :) Whether you appreciate this kind of journalism or not, you can’t just target HCC, this has become a part of our culture. P&P have taken measures to prevent mocking of celebrities personalities and looks, we try to only comment on the clothes; HCC is defenitely one of the nicer blogs.
      But that’s not even the issue here.
      You can’t accept this plagarism, which is a LEGAL offense, just because you’re values don’t coencide type of news on this blog. P&P buy all of their own pictures, cite all of their other sources and don’t make a profit- something Zing TV can’t attest to.

    6. T at | | Reply

      Wow fashionguru. You are of a tiny minority here that have vehemently argued in favour of Zing. CLEARLY Zing employees frequent this site. It would thus be logical to assume that either you have some hidden agenda, have had a really bad day (week), or that you are somehow linked with Zing. That is a logical conclusion, not something so far-fetched that would “measure” one’s IQ as being very low, which is what you have implied.

      People don’t just sue the second they find out about such things. It is a long and arduous process, especially if a blog wants to go up against a major TV network, they don’t just call their lawyers and say right let’s sue them, and then think about the implications, the laws, legal precedence, etc. Comparing this blog runned by 2 women to Vogue (owned by multinational publisher Conde Naste) is a ridiculous comparison to make, as clearly the ability to take legal action would differ greatly between Vogue and HHC. But I guess the link you made was because both are in the same industry, fashion. In that case you have paid HHC a fine compliment, that they are comparable with the likes of Vogue.

      P&P never claimed to have made a major medical discovery. They commented on celebrities fashion. This does require creativity, or I’m not exactly sure what you define as creativity. Unfortunately you are also confused about the definition of yellow journalism. Fashion journalism (in the case of HHC at least) is not intentionally sensational, there is no gross overexaggeration of stories in a bid to attract readers. Unlike newspapers, which sensationalise stories on the front page (or print in yellow ink, hence yellow journalism) so that more newspapers are sold.

      I highly DOUBT that HHC are doing this for celebrities. But, if you can somehow see into P&P’s hearts and think this is their intention, then I guess I should refute your claim that celebrities don’t “care a damn” about their opinions – as far I recall P&P have been threatened before (by celebrities) for the content of their site (clearly these celebrities did care!). And as far as positive attention goes, just look at Miss Mallika’s twitter. Very recently she has tweeted “HIGH-HEELED RT;)Confidentially,I like ths blog,evn when they dont like me”

      Sorry this comment (essay) is so long!

    7. padma at | | Reply

      alright, Darling! Give it a rest. You will give yourself a nose-bleed at this rate…and spoil that lovely fashionguru-isque dress you might be wearing. Not worth it.

      two things jump at my low-IQed brain, cause i kind of smell sour grapes here and also sorta kinda feel the same as some of others here-
      1. If it were not plagiarism/stealing, why would they do tacky crap like smudging watermarks? and why would every one of their posted videos here have the exact same text (albeit translated into Hingish and rather shrilly)

      2. If PnP’s opinions were so incredible non-creative/not worthwhile/not worth giving a damn about, Why in God’s name are you here and why, do you think?, would they go to the trouble of smudging watermarks, copying opinions etc etc, when they surely have the money to get their own writers and photographs?

      oh a third one, (sorry low-IQed brain remember?, so rather slow) – Explain how they will get into trouble for sueing or even having this blog.

      Enlighten us if you may, but after you cool down, Please!

  139. Dee_dior at | | Reply

    Hey PnP please do post updates on that lawsuit all of us are waiting for!!
    P.S: you guys are SO MUCH cooler than that trashy channel anyways!

  140. Nepali at | | Reply

    Hmmm the channel should hire you guys, or pay you for the write up and photos. If not, they should hire someone who work for fashion magazine or have a flair, but then one need to know to identify as well. Those who visit this site from India should send their CV to the channel, and they should hire one of you.

  141. The real Genie at | | Reply

    I don’t post on here but I’ve been following this blog since its inception in early 2008 or earlier.I know when this blog was unknown, when comments dropped came up to 4 or 5. Therefore, I’m really proud to see this blog become such a craze. I’m happy for you p and p. You are doing a fabulous job! And really….sue their asses and milk them for every penny worth. These stupid thieves wouldn’t know what fashion means even if it hits them on their head fair and square.

    1. chuck bass at | | Reply

      I second that. I have been reading this blog ever since it started and its wonderful to see it become so HUGE. Obviously, you guys are doing something right and deserve credit for it. This is not the first time your content has been stolen though but I hope this time you take action and teach bollywood a lesson…since this happens very often in India. I wish you all the luck P & P.

  142. The real Genie at | | Reply

    And methinks fashion guru does not work for Zing. I think he’s either Manish Malhotra (whose designs are so tacky and who all of us dislike) or Nita Lulla (whose no desginer herself and has only risen by riding Aishwarya’s coattails).

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  143. sumana at | | Reply

    Come on…P & P…get over it…. i hate seeing this as the first item on u’r page…pls change.

  144. mrug at | | Reply

    Booo fashionguru!

    If you think this blog is a waste, what about all those gossip shows on TV, gossip columns in news papers, what about page 3? Aren’t they waste too? And if you really don’t like this blog, here’s something you can do. DON’T VISIT THIS BLOG. as simple as that! And to be honest, this blog is actually helping the indian fashion industry by making more and more people aware of indian fashion market!

    I wish you get well soon! and start thinking straight! If you can’t, get your head checked! I will pay the bills!

  145. T at | | Reply

    Forgot to say this… HHC are not crying to any of its readers for support, it was a natural reaction of readers to want to support them (in fact it was a reader 1st that requested the email of Zing). All HHC said was “If you feel our pain and outrage… send ‘em an email… we’d really appreciate the support”… In no way crying out for help. In fact, by you saying they are “crying out for help” your style of writing does in fact resemble the sensationalist tactics of yellow journalism ;)

  146. Bored at | | Reply

    I dont think fashionguru works for Zing but is one of the celebs who is a WTHeyy specialist. That would explain the shouting from rooftops that celebs dont care what PnP say. heh heh….

  147. nikki at | | Reply

    You know, this situation really has been bugging me. Especially when sites such as this go through such turmoil, I feel bad for those that have taken the time to share their thoughts.

    Fashionguru, I like the comment someone wrote after you. Look at this from PnP’s perspective. Had you been in their place would you really feel the same? They are the ones that took the time to write their thoughts, watermark the pictures, and make it available to us. If it were you taking the time out every day to search for events, search out the clothes, what collection they belonged to, watermarking them and them posting them,- going through all that work and then finding out that someone blatantly stole your thoughts/picture/idea, would you really feel the same? Put yourself in their shoes rather than b*tching and complaining that we are just whining here. If you are so critical and hate the content, why dont you stay away. For every ‘one’ of you there are a hundred who like being here. (and that includes Mallika Sherawat, as well, given that she follows their twitter and admitted so despite the comments against her.

    I have been plagarized before. Its not fun. All the hardwork that I put into it was stolen and used under someone elses name. It hurts no matter what the content is.

    The content is representative of ones passion- and we can clearly see just HOW passionate PnP are about this subject matter. So much that we all enjoy coming here to read.

    My last comment here before I fall asleep on my keyboard:

    I give you (PnP) a lot of credit for finding the courage to keep on blogging and sharing stuff with us despite this incident. You havent stopped it at all, and I am just as excited when I get a notification on Tweetdeck that a new blog is up.

    Thanks for all your hardwork (no matter what the “Fashionguru”‘s out there say, your work is worthwhile to me!.)

    1. DeLight at | | Reply

      Love your thoughts nikki! I fully agree!!

  148. Pri at | | Reply

    Wow I’m going to have to agree with both Fashionguru and all those yelling at her/him. Yes, plagiarism is bad and not acceptable but then again I agree with fashion guru’s point that this is a fashion blog, and not one from the view point of an actual ‘fashion critic’ but just two women giving their perspectives. That does not make one a fashion critic. And the women on zing said some of the same stuff but really, it could be anything one would think when they saw those outfits. So stop hating on fashionguru.

  149. fashionguru at | | Reply

    The fact that Malliaka Sherawat is a fan of this blog shows its merit, the woman who lands on the red carpets of American soil in costumes borrowed from superman and combined with her own underwear is a HUGE fan of this blog, this is such a shame not a credit!And please don’t consider this blog so important that Manish would stop by to comment!Thats a bit too much! P&P are not suzy menkes(in case you guys don’t know she is a fashion critic for International Herald Tribune, NYTimes) that Manish would sit up and notice!P&P are a bunch of gossip mongers who comment on dresses which they lust but cannot afford and hence they get jealous and say bad things about people who can afford them!And get real, when you start any “creative endeavour” its your responsibilty to protect your content.Expecting that noone else steals your content is akin to leaving the door open and then crying foul that you have been theived!P&P need to be more mature!This blog might be popular amoung the fashion poor but its never a blog on fashion and has nothing original on it!Face it!Fashion is about being avant-garde not just posting pictures of people and saying they dress bad blah blah And what is P&P’s background to make those comments?Have they styled any celebrities, designed any clothes that their opinion should carry merit?And if you compare this blog to Page 3 well thats why Page 3 jouros are never considered fashion critics and hardly get any respect!

    1. preeths at | | Reply


      1. preeths at | | Reply

        So moral of the story is that Manish Malhotra or Nandita Mahtani would make a good fashion critic!!

        Happy now?

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    2. Sin at | | Reply

      Wow, I really wish fashionguru would just shut up and go away… I still dont understand why she keeps commenting on this blog when its so unworthy of her grace!

      P&P, I really wish you would stop being so nice and stop accepting her comments! Did you guys receive any apology yet from Zing?

  150. Jervais at | | Reply

    whats the update ??
    why wont anyone update ???

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